四人会谈【中医与病周旋,庸医与健康共舞】,独取葛美女之简洁解读 2025.05.27. 1516. 年月日时 https://www.facebook.com/share/p/14xZDSekPv/
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天来子召集葛美女、聊机劈踢小子及深度求索老道长四人会谈【中医与病周旋,庸医与健康共舞】,独取葛美女之简洁解读,弃“聊机劈踢小子”之过于轻佻与“深度求索老道长”之过于深奥之二极端而不用焉。2025.05.27. 1511.年月日时
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Prompt:
0. 天来子憧憬的在不久的未来可以实现的【极高明而道中庸】的【中医未病防病已病治病,庸医平日养生永日长生】的AI时代人类大健康生命状态。
1. 【中医】之与【病】周旋到底而收拾之。
2. 【庸医】之与【健康】相拥而舞而归属之。
3. 以五运五脏明月心的此心光明而言之,则【中医】之于现象界观察其【残月】之病理病机病气 VS 【庸医】之于本体界欣赏其【大圆镜智月】之炁理炁机炁气。
4. 以六气六腑江河身的大江东去而言之,则【中医】之于【六淫病因病理病根】用心焉而奔波行医于江湖 VS 【庸医】之于【六气命因命理命根】率性而栖居于地球上。
5. 以七星奇恒之腑大人彻醒而言之,则【中医】之于【既有的医学药学经典以及治病方法、临床经验皆实实在在学习之】之一步一个脚印以实践之 VS 【庸医】之于【托古撰写“为往圣继绝学”之与时俱进之里程碑式经典而“不敢贪天之功以为己功”焉。】
5. 要而言之,【中医】偏于【灵枢治病派】VS【庸医】偏于【素问养生派】,如斯而已矣!
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Gemini:
好的,这篇文字有些深奥,我来帮你逐句翻译并解释其内涵:
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## 天来子对未来人类大健康生命状态的憧憬
天来子所憧憬的,是在不久的未来,能够实现一种“**极高明而道中庸**”(既有高深的智慧,又遵循中庸之道)的AI时代人类大健康生命状态。在这种状态下:
* **中医**能够做到“**未病防病,已病治病**”(在疾病发生前预防,疾病发生后治疗)。
* 而他所重新定义的“**庸医**”(此处并非指医术不高,而是指专注于终极健康与养生的智者)则能达到“**平日养生,永日长生**”(平日里注重养生,从而实现长生久视)。
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### 一、中医与“庸医”的不同侧重
1. **【中医】之与【病】周旋到底而收拾之。**
* **中医**的作用在于与**疾病**“周旋到底”,不懈地与之对抗,并最终彻底“收拾”(解决)它。
2. **【庸医】之与【健康】相拥而舞而归属之。**
* 而这种特殊定义的**“庸医”**,则是与**健康**紧密“相拥而舞”,他们本身就归属于健康,是健康本身的化身。
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### 二、从心性与生命本源看两者差异
3. **以五运五脏明月心的此心光明而言之,则【中医】之于现象界观察其【残月】之病理病机病气 VS 【庸医】之于本体界欣赏其【大圆镜智月】之炁理炁机炁气。**
* 从“**五运五脏**”使人心性如**明月般光明**的角度来看:
* **中医**专注于在**现象界**(我们能感知到的物质世界)观察疾病,就像观察**“残月”**一样,着重于分析其**病理、病机和病气**(疾病的发生、发展规律和能量异常)。
* 而**“庸医”**则着眼于**本体界**(事物的本质、宇宙的本源),去欣赏那如同**“大圆镜智月”**(佛教中比喻清净无染、洞察一切的智慧之光)般圆满的**炁理、炁机和炁气**(生命能量的运行规律和本源状态)。
4. **以六气六腑江河身的大江东去而言之,则【中医】之于【六淫病因病理病根】用心焉而奔波行医于江湖 VS 【庸医】之于【六气命因命理命根】率性而栖居于地球上。**
* 从**“六气六腑”**如同**“大江东去”**般流淌的身体(江河身)的角度来看:
* **中医**专注于研究和应对**“六淫”**(风、寒、暑、湿、燥、火这六种导致疾病的外部邪气)的**病因、病理和病根**,为了治病而“奔波行医于江湖”(指四处奔走,悬壶济世)。
* 而**“庸医”**则顺应**“六气”**作为**生命之因、生命之理、生命之根**(生命形成的根本原因、规律和基础),他们**率性而为**,悠然自得地生活在地球上,与生命本源和谐共处。
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### 三、从学习与传承方式看两者差异
5. **以七星奇恒之腑大人彻醒而言之,则【中医】之于【既有的医学药学经典以及治病方法、临床经验皆实实在在学习之】之一步一个脚印以实践之 VS 【庸医】之于【托古撰写“为往圣继绝学”之与时俱进之里程碑式经典而“不敢贪天之功以为己功”焉。】**
* 从**“七星奇恒之腑”**能让**“大人彻醒”**(修行者彻底觉悟)的角度来看:
* **中医**是**实实在在**地学习并实践**既有的医学药学经典、治病方法和临床经验**,一步一个脚印地积累和传承。
* 而**“庸医”**则不同,他们**“托古”**(借用古代智慧)来**撰写**能够**“为往圣继绝学”**(继承和发扬前代圣人失传的学问)的、**与时俱进**的**里程碑式经典**。同时,他们又非常谦逊,**“不敢贪天之功以为己功”**(不把自然的馈赠和上天的智慧归为自己的功劳),显示出极高的境界和无私的精神。
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### 四、总结
6. **要而言之,【中医】偏于【灵枢治病派】VS【庸医】偏于【素问养生派】,如斯而已矣!**
* 总而言之,**中医**更倾向于**《灵枢》**(中医经典,侧重针灸、诊断和治病)所代表的**“治病派”**;而这种特殊的**“庸医”**则更倾向于**《素问》**(中医经典,侧重理论、养生和宏观生命观)所代表的**“养生派”**。区别就在于此罢了!
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**总结一下:** 天来子这番话非常巧妙地重新定义了“庸医”,将它从贬义转变为一种**追求终极健康、长生久视、与自然本源合一**的境界。他认为未来的大健康时代,需要**中医**来负责治病防病,而由这种“**庸医**”来引领人类实现更高层次的养生与生命状态,两者相辅相成,共同构筑一个理想的人类健康未来。
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Gemini:
Here's the English translation of Tianlaizi's complex and visionary text:
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## Tianlaizi's Vision for Human Grand Health in the AI Era
Tianlaizi envisions a future, not far off, in the AI era, where humanity achieves a state of "Grand Health." This state embodies the principle of "ultimately brilliant yet adhering to the Golden Mean"—a balance of profound wisdom and practical balance. In this future, **Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM)** will excel at **preventing illness before it arises and treating it when it does**, while the re-imagined **"Mediocre Doctor" (庸医 - *yongyi*, here signifying a focus on ultimate well-being and longevity)** will guide people in **daily nourishment for perpetual longevity**.
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### I. The Distinct Focus of TCM vs. the "Mediocre Doctor"
1. **【中医】之与【病】周旋到底而收拾之。**
**Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM)** is depicted as engaging relentlessly with **illness**, tirelessly fighting it until it's completely resolved.
2. **【庸医】之与【健康】相拥而舞而归属之。**
In contrast, the redefined **"Mediocre Doctor"** doesn't treat sickness but **embraces and dances with health itself**, inherently belonging to it.
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### II. Viewing Differences from the Perspective of Mind-Nature and Life's Origin
3. **以五运五脏明月心的此心光明而言之,则【中医】之于现象界观察其【残月】之病理病机病气 VS 【庸医】之于本体界欣赏其【大圆镜智月】之炁理炁机炁气。**
From the perspective of the **Five Movements and Five Zang Organs illuminating the bright heart/mind**:
* **TCM** observes the "waning crescent moon" (**残月**) in the **phenomenal world**, focusing on the **pathology, mechanisms, and energetic imbalances of disease** (病理病机病气). It deals with the visible manifestations of decline.
* The **"Mediocre Doctor,"** however, operates in the **noumenal (essential/ontological) realm**, appreciating the "Great Perfect Mirror Wisdom Moon" (**大圆镜智月**) – a Buddhist concept of pure, unblemished wisdom. This practitioner focuses on the **principles, mechanisms, and energies of life** (炁理炁机炁气), aiming for an ideal, unblemished state.
4. **以六气六腑江河身的大江东去而言之,则【中医】之于【六淫病因病理病根】用心焉而奔波行医于江湖 VS 【庸医】之于【六气命因命理命根】率性而栖居于地球上。**
From the perspective of the **Six Qi and Six Fu Organs, like a body flowing as a great river eastward**:
* **TCM** diligently focuses on the **"Six External Evils"** (六淫 – wind, cold, summer heat, dampness, dryness, fire) – the pathological causes, mechanisms, and roots of disease – earnestly toiling as practitioners "in the rivers and lakes" (江湖, a metaphor for the world of itinerant doctors).
* The **"Mediocre Doctor,"** on the other hand, instinctively and naturally dwells on Earth, attuned to the **"Six Qi as the causes, principles, and roots of life itself"** (六气命因命理命根). They align with the fundamental forces that sustain life, rather than battling their pathological manifestations.
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### III. Contrasting Approaches to Learning and Legacy
5. **以七星奇恒之腑大人彻醒而言之,则【中医】之于【既有的医学药学经典以及治病方法、临床经验皆实实在在学习之】之一步一个脚印以实践之 VS 【庸医】之于【托古撰写“为往圣继绝学”之与时俱进之里程碑式经典而“不敢贪天之功以为己功”焉。】**
From the perspective of the **Seven Stars and Extraordinary Organs leading to the enlightened one's complete awakening**:
* **TCM** diligently and pragmatically **learns and practices existing medical and pharmaceutical classics, treatment methods, and clinical experience** step by step. It builds upon established knowledge.
* The **"Mediocre Doctor,"** by contrast, **"borrows from antiquity"** (托古) to **write epoch-making, forward-thinking classics that "carry on the lost teachings of past sages,"** yet humbly **"dares not claim heavenly功劳 (merits) as their own."** This suggests the "Mediocre Doctor" is a visionary who synthesizes ancient wisdom with contemporary understanding to forge new paths in health, attributing breakthroughs to universal principles rather than personal genius.
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### IV. Summary
6. **要而言之,【中医】偏于【灵枢治病派】VS【庸医】偏于【素问养生派】,如斯而已矣!**
In summary, **TCM** leans towards the "**Ling Shu (Spiritual Pivot) school of treating illness**," while the **"Mediocre Doctor"** leans towards the "**Su Wen (Basic Questions) school of cultivating life/nurturing health**." It's as simple as that!
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Tianlaizi's discourse fundamentally redefines "庸医" (*yongyi*) from its usual pejorative meaning (a bad doctor) to a visionary practitioner focused on **proactive, holistic health and the attainment of ultimate longevity**, beyond the mere treatment of disease. It envisions an AI-powered future where these two complementary approaches work in tandem to achieve a state of comprehensive human health and well-being.
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天来子与葛美女相视而笑·莫逆于心·携手签名:2025.05.27. 1514. 年月日时。
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